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Southways selling SuperCat rights
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Southways looking to sell the SuperCat rights.

Thought this may be of interest to any SuperCat owners out there, not necessarily because you'll be bidding, but more because support for the SuperCat may cease!

https://www.facebook.com/114076275342038...115048577/
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#2
According to their face book post, 800 Cats have been sold so if all the owners chipped in about £4 each we could easily raise the £3k , just need somewhere to keep it all.
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#3
Just come across this on facebook

Southways Automotive - Kit, Classic & Sports Car Specialists | Facebook


Moderator note: This post has been merged into this thread which was started a few hours before on the same subject.
Keith Aviemore yet again, was Suffolk again
was Aviemore, Scotland
Was Cotton, Suffolk
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#4
Good luck with getting 800 owners to chip in £4.  We have had just under 2,000 registered users and only about 20 have ever put their hand in their pockets towards our costs!

I'm sorry to have to break it to you, but the Cat / Super Cat is dead as a new car platform - the donor is now becoming a "classic" car as can be seen by looking on AutoTrader at used Sierra prices - there is a 1.6 GL on there now for £15k: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details...8025746733

It is also clearly not viable as a "parts" business either, otherwise Tiger or Southways would have kept the project on.

At a guess, I would estimate that the market would require one or two chassis and a few specific suspension parts a year.  Other mechanical components can still be bought from Tiger or other sellers as they are generic and not unique to the Cat / Super Cat.

Based on the mechanical parts failures over the years, most could be repaired reasonably easily with a simple set of tools (saws, files, drills etc.) and access to someone who can undertake welding - even if you don't know someone, a mobile welder could undertake most of the repairs reasonably cheaply if you did the preparation work.

This leaves the bodywork, for which the moulds take up a lot of space.  As the moulds will age in a similar way to bodywork, producing "flawless" bodywork from old moulds isn't going to happen.  This would then result in either lower quality bodywork parts, or higher costs related to the maintenance of the moulds before they can be used for each one-off fabrication.

Again, I can't see the market for replacement bodywork parts being particularly large.  Completed cars already have bodywork.  Most unfinished projects will have a set of bodywork stashed somewhere, leaving a small market for bodywork repairs and replacements.  Many of these specialist parts can be sourced from the second-hand market, for example from crash/damaged cars, unfinished projects etc.  Other parts, for example cycle wings can be bought from various suppliers and don't have to be Tiger specific.  For parts that can't be sourced, because they're made from fibreglass, with a bit of time and effort can generally be repaired effectively.
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#5
Saw this coming a while back when Southways effectively mothballed any support work to concentrate on their TVR business.

As indicated above most parts other then the Fibreglass body can be sourced via other means.

I'm now glad I purchased my mates bodywork panels when he scrapped of his E1 a number of years ago.
The fibreglass panels have been sitting in my garage loft pending the day when lady luck runs out Smile
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#6
We're delighted to announce that a deal has been reached with Tiger Racing for the immediate transfer of all build/aftersales and production rights back to themselves after our ten(ish) year custodianship. Seems like the natural place for it to end up, and it's probably the best outcome that current owners could have wished for, so Merry Christmas!

Just to like to thank those of you who've been supportive of our efforts over the past decade. I think in terms of ideas, we had it all, but sadly our ambitions weren't matched by our capacity to see them through. We managed some improvements, but as with an actual project car, it would have been never-ending!
Nevertheless, we met some great people, had some fun and experienced being a car 'maker': Box ticked!

To confirm, we are NO LONGER able to supply anything Cat-related. You must return to Tiger Racing for all future wants & needs.

Have a good Christmas and an even better 2022!
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#7
That's good news for all of the Cat owners. I don't expect Tiger will be developing the Cat any further. though.
Keith Aviemore yet again, was Suffolk again
was Aviemore, Scotland
Was Cotton, Suffolk
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#8
Good result for Cat owners.
Back where it belongs and with people who know the kit inside out.
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(07-12-2021, 07:08 PM)Schrodinger Wrote: That's good news for all of the Cat owners. I don't expect Tiger will be developing the Cat any further. though.

No, I don't believe they are. We've been instructed to destroy the jig, which we'll be doing shortly.

(07-12-2021, 09:46 PM)JimM Wrote: Good result for Cat owners.
Back where it belongs and with people who know the kit inside out.

It is.

And it's an even better result for us!
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